2021.022.001-6 Interview with Charlie Lai October 11, 2012

 

Charlie Lai along with Jack Tchen are founders of the Chinatown History Project, which has gone on to become the Museum of Chinese in America. In this five part interview conducted over the course of several months Charlie talks about his childhood in Hong Kong and how his family eventually decided to immigrate to the United States when he was nine years old. He talks about living with his uncle when they first arrive in the states and saying on Long Island. His family eventually moves into their own place in Manhattan. Later he recounts his time at Princeton and his community organizing effort to recruit more Asian students to the school even though he was not fond of the institution. While still a student at Princeton he spent summers working at Basement Workshop, which was where he met Jack Tchen. Basement had many issues with inter office politics and eventually closed. Charlie and Jack began discussing ideas, which would turn into the Chinatown History Project at 70 Mulberry Street. Charlie eventually steps down as executive director of the museum because he didn’t feel he could take it to the next level. But is called back when his replacement Fay Chew needs his help in growing the organization into a bigger space. Charlie recounts in depth his fundraising efforts with Maya Lin in the wake of the 9-11 attack to try and find the museum a new home, which ends up being 215 Centre Street. He makes mention of his personal life and marriage to Pat, whom he met while community organizing in college. After leaving the museum for a second time Charlie talks about working a few months at the Chinatown Manpower Project.

0:00 - His curiosity with taking economic classes, working on a 9/11 relief effort for the Asian American community, the difficulty in aiding Chinatown with its informal economy, pushing to provide health care and English language programs。

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13:59 - Working with city planners, policy makers, and funders, how to properly provide for the Chinatown community, tourism being a factor to help rebuild the community but also tourism is harmful as it can deepen stereotypes, wanting to expand the museum and possibly buy property.

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25:25 - Redoing the museum and Maya Lin designing the space, coming back to work at the museum and working with Fay Chew, asking the government for aid to help MOCA grow, looking for a space in the budget.

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49:00 - Maya Lin agreeing to work with MOCA, Lin’s previous work and how she defines her work, programs MOCA organized at 70 Mulberry, how 70 Mulberry should be used and how the archives are stored, backlash from the community over MOCA getting a new space.

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67:33 - How the organization is going to change with the new space, the importance of MOCA and the goal it wants visitors to experience, misconceptions people have on him as a Chinatown activist, funding and how money was raised.

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82:27 - Helping the museum out over the years, frustration with staff when the museum was doing poorly and not listening to his suggestions, not caring where the staff chooses to take MOCA in the future, different choices he made while working at MOCA and his reasoning, bringing in flowers for Chinese new year and looking out for the Chinatown community.

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110:04 - Realizing what skills he has and what he brought to MOCA, the importance of serving the broader community and looking beyond oneself, thinking about what he wants to do with the rest of his life.

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