2021.022.001-5 Interview with Charlie Lai August 9, 2012

 

Charlie Lai along with Jack Tchen are founders of the Chinatown History Project, which has gone on to become the Museum of Chinese in America. In this five part interview conducted over the course of several months Charlie talks about his childhood in Hong Kong and how his family eventually decided to immigrate to the United States when he was nine years old. He talks about living with his uncle when they first arrive in the states and saying on Long Island. His family eventually moves into their own place in Manhattan. Later he recounts his time at Princeton and his community organizing effort to recruit more Asian students to the school even though he was not fond of the institution. While still a student at Princeton he spent summers working at Basement Workshop, which was where he met Jack Tchen. Basement had many issues with inter office politics and eventually closed. Charlie and Jack began discussing ideas, which would turn into the Chinatown History Project at 70 Mulberry Street. Charlie eventually steps down as executive director of the museum because he didn’t feel he could take it to the next level. But is called back when his replacement Fay Chew needs his help in growing the organization into a bigger space. Charlie recounts in depth his fundraising efforts with Maya Lin in the wake of the 9-11 attack to try and find the museum a new home, which ends up being 215 Centre Street. He makes mention of his personal life and marriage to Pat, whom he met while community organizing in college. After leaving the museum for a second time Charlie talks about working a few months at the Chinatown Manpower Project.

0:00 - Stepping down as executive director, why Fay Chew Matsuda was chosen as new executive director, adjusting to living a domestic life and taking care of his child.

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9:51 - Taking a job at the Manhattan borough president’s office, working in Chinatown and the Puerto Rican community, homeless living in Thompson square park, the condition of Lower East Side, relationship the police had with the community, escalating tensions with cops.

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24:56 - Learning more about Chinatown through his job, dealing with the homeless population on the lower east side, working in the government with different levels of staff.

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36:39 - Working as an Asian American in government, getting advocacy groups to trust the government, using his experience working in Chinatown towards his new job, the various individuals Lai worked with in government.

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49:55 - Communicating with others that are involved in scholarly work versus the general community, the difficulty of managing and sharing ideas with others, working as the director of policy and management, left his job because the office got too political, city council member reelections, his son going to preschool and Lai spending long hours at work, hating working a desk job.

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72:33 - Working at the Chinatown manpower project as the director and raising funding, difficulty with taking over the old director’s job, difference between American and Hong Kong culture, frustrations with other employees.

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94:56 - Leaving the organization after nine months and the impact he made, his plans after he quit his job, working at the Asian-American Federation as the director of programs and planning, problem solving issues with other organizations, working with architects.

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113:10 - Not expecting to stay at the Asian-American Federation for two years, his wife obtaining the Revson fellowship and Lai later getting the same one, types of classes you can take with the Revson fellowship, starting at the school of international public affairs at Columbia, the classes and experiences he had while at Columbia.

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132:51 - Having a different experience at Columbia compared to Princeton.

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