1982.002.001 Oral History Interview with Daniel Chu

 

Daniel Chu was born in Kohanaiki, Hawaii in 1914, the tenth child in a large family of eight boys and four girls. His father’s parents were Hakka and had first migrated to Trinidad or Jamaica in the 1870s to work on rice or sugar plantations. After their contracts ended, they sent his father, who was eight years old at the time, back to their home village in Guangdong Province. When he was eighteen, they sent for him to join them where they had settled in Honolulu, Hawaii. Daniel’s mother was born in Honolulu. Her parents, also Hakka, had immigrated to Hawaii around the same time as his father’s parents. Daniel begins the oral history by recounting this immigration history, as well as memories and details about his family’s life in Hawaii. He speaks about his father’s recruitment as a lay minister by the Episcopal Church and the importance of religion in their lives, as well as his parents’ tailoring work and ownership of a western dressmaking business. Daniel next discusses his family’s move to New York in the 1920s. He describes his mother as rather remarkable for not being afraid to pioneer in New York and move her family there. Daniel, then age 15, followed with his father and three siblings in 1929. He recalls his mom owning a share in wet wash laundries in the Bronx, his first contact with Chinese laundrymen at Sing Lu Laundry across the street, being part of the neighborhood St. Margaret Episcopal Church and conducting English classes for Chinese laundrymen there, and his schooling at P.S. 51 in the Bronx, James Monroe High School, and Oberlin College. He had only been able to save enough to attend one year of college. After his money ran out, it was 1935 and the nation was still in the midst of the Great Depression. He describes jobs as scare and difficult to get, especially if Asian. He managed to get hired to work on a couple of ships, including one which sailed from New York to the Canal Zone and back. He got fired from that job because he rebelled and snuck ashore in Colón. In those days, Chinese seamen were not allowed to get off in the Panama Canal Zone, but Daniel insisted that he was an American citizen and as such should be allowed to go ashore like everyone else. After he left the ship in 1936, he went to work on a laundry delivery truck for his mom, who at this time owned the Sun Lun Chung Company, a grocery store at 4 Mott Street, and a laundry supply store. It was from this job of collecting laundry needing washing all over Bronx that he says he gained a window into laundrymen’s lives. After a year in this job, his mother got him another job with a Chinese print master on Park Place, the Row Schew Company run by Jimmy Lawson. The store upstairs sold mostly laundry supplies, while the printing press he assisted with downstairs made a brisk business printing laundry tickets. After leaving this printing job in 1938, he describes taking a cross country trip to San Francisco with a friend and going back to sea again to work as a galley help on a couple of ships, including one sailing from San Francisco to Manilla via the Honolulu, Yokohama, Kobe, Shanghai, and Hong Kong route. During all of this time, he had still been hoping to save money to return to Oberlin, however, found it difficult to save aboard the ship. Hearing of higher wages in Honolulu, he decided to return to Hawaii in October of 1941. There, he bore firsthand witness to the Japanese bombing of Pearl Harbor and says that his dreams of returning to college shattered when the war began.

0:00 - Introduction, born in Honolulu in 1941, father came in 1880s, father born in either Trinidad or Jamaica, father's folks had migrated to work on rice or sugar plantations in 1870s, father went back to village in Guangdong when contract ended, village name in Hakka dialect, father's parents sent for him in Honolulu when age 18, Daniel's mother was born in Honolulu, her parents came from China, were also Hakka, came about same time, had met on the boat and married soon after in Honolulu

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4:09 - Born in 1914 in Kohanaiki, back then was an undeveloped part of town, cannot recall Kohanaiki, moved to heart of town in Honolulu, lived on Merchant Street one block from Kings Street main thoroughfare on Honolulu in 1916, remembers search lights in sky and soldiers in vehicles, must have been a staging area for men shipped to war from Hawaii, can recollect end of WWI in 1918, first hair cut on Merchant Street, other memories of Merchant Street

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8:03 - Family of 8 boys and 4 girls, father was a lay minister in Kohala, recruited by Episcopal Church, father never had formal training but trained others how to preach, how parents first became Christians, was told family village was a Christian village, believes father already Christian, father's name was St. John in Hakka, mother was a seamstress, owned a dressmaking business, father also did tailoring, father worked on rice plantation when first arrived, was probably a free not contract laborer

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14:41 - Why family moved to New York, brothers going to Iowa and Michigan for college in 1920s started family migrating, saw greater future on mainland, brothers left for New York in 1927, mother and sisters moved there year before, father and 4 children followed in 1929, what he remembers of trip, boat from Honolulu to San Pedro, waylaid in LA Japan Town, train through Midwest and Chicago to New York in August, very hot, slept sitting up, no bath, got to Grand Central, family not there to meet them

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23:36 - Mother had share in wet wash laundry in Bronx, later formed another wet wash with others at 149th and Woodblock Ave, Daniel worked on truck collecting and delivering laundry all over Bronx, made two trips every night except Sunday, laundries had all Chinese workers, some women working in laundries were caucasian or black, mother wasn’t afraid to pioneer and take family to New York, mother went to Wanamaker School of Design, father and some siblings unhappy, Daniel helped them return to Hawaii

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29:55 - Family belonged to St. Margaret’s Episcopal Church, he and brothers used to conduct English classes for Chinese laundrymen, impression of laundrymen’s lives, first contact with laundrymen at Sing Lu Laundry, this was during Great Depression of 1930s, how to use the 8-pound iron, worked long hours, only closed on Sundays, layout of laundry store and where each step was done, living and sleeping area, most worked laundry alone, could barely recall any laundrymen with families

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39:51 - Stories of laundrymen and neighbors/customers, laundrymen provided nuts and sweets to customers and children during Chinese New Year, not much social interaction mostly business, in dangerous neighborhoods such as Harlem laundries had bars or screened partition

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42:25 - Arrived in New York at age 15/16, schooling, P.S. 51 in Bronx a few blocks from home, compared to school in Honolulu, first day, classmates thought Hawaii was in the Caribbean, brother ran for class president and won, 99 percent Jewish students, had to catch up on English grammar, made good friends, was not teased, he and brother made track team, were outspoken and athletic, scored high on Regents exams, put on singing show for school, asked to sing at junior high commencement but declined

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49:47 - Attended James Monroe High School, 5000+ students, he and brother were the only Chinese students, had fond memories, helped found the rifle team, tried out and made the glee club, put on a Gilbert and Sullivan play, dressed up as Englishman, was a baritone, dedicated teachers, English teacher Miss Hazelton recommended Oberlin College, looked forward to going to high school, it was during the height of depression, soap box orators tried to get students to sign up for the communist party

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60:09 - Worked as a houseboy at St. Margaret Church, saved to put himself through one year of college, left job in 1934, rode motorcycle from New York to Ohio and Oberlin, shipped belongings on steamer trunk to dorm, first week orientation, dining hall, had to take 5 hours of Latin, Oberlin had unique way of grading, strict English composition teacher, began as second to worst in class in grammar, taught to think clearly, improved, had to go to chapel once a week, had good time first year of college

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72:34 - High points at Oberlin, divinity students asked him to join their Sunday trips to preach in small towns around Oberlin, going out to the arboretum, did not know any women there, a date who was from Turkey, going to hike along Chance Creek, ran out of money after the first year, worked two part-time jobs but not enough to save for second year, intended to save to go back to college a second year but didn’t, was in the middle of a deep economic depression and jobs were scarce

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78:40 - What he did after Oberlin, jobs hard to get especially if Asian, visited Fujianese shipping master in Brooklyn hoping for a job, was hired but found out ship was being used as staging area for strikebreakers being imported from midwest lake ports, got another seagoing job on the Santa Barbara, got fired because rebelled and snuck ashore in Colon, in those days Chinese could not get off in the Panama Canal Zone, “I am an American citizen, I should be allowed to go ashore like everybody else”

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84:33 - On the ship Chinese only worked as laundrymen or in the kitchen, sailed from New York to the Canal Zone and back, picked up Panamanian crew, stopped at Guayaquil for bananas to take to Chile, anchored in Peruvian ports, Callao, Val Paraiso, saw some Chinese who spoke Spanish, conditions and treatment of Chinese seamen, approached about organizing Chinese on ship into a union, decided to get another job, not many Chinese seamen at that time, were taking foreign seamen off American ships

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90:42 - Left ship in 1936, mother had grocery store at 4 Mott Street and laundry supply store, worked on laundry delivery truck for a year, what mom sold, had hard time communicating since dialect was Hakka, this was when he gained a window into laundrymen’s lives, was a hard existence but difficult as Asian to get other jobs, same delivery route every week, grocery store named Sun Lun Chung Company, truck had same name, doesn’t have photos, wished he was cognizant of preserving history in those days

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97:29 - After delivery truck job his mother got him a job with a Chinese print master on Park Place, Row Schew Company run by Jimmy Lawson (Eurasian), upstairs had store that sold mostly laundry supplies, was assistant in printing press downstairs, printing laundry tickets was his biggest business, how he printed laundry tickets, worked there at least a couple years, worked long hours 11am-11pm 6 days a week, asked to make deliveries at night, got to learn the city very well

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104:34 - After left printer in 1938 went to San Francisco, drove cross country with friend, stopped in Colorado, both hired as hard rock miners, went back to sea again as galley help, tried to get into Marine Cooks and Stewards union, got last job on the ship, other Chinese working on the ship, best job was in laundry because had time off in port and other perks, why laundrymen had special agreement with the company, San Francisco to Manilla via Honolulu Yokohama Kobe Shanghai Hong Kong route

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110:40 - Worked on an around the world cruise the President Jackson in 1940, due to war in Europe bypassed Europe went around Africa, went to Hawaii in October of 1941, firsthand witness to Japanese bombing of Pearl Harbor, before the war he was still hoping to save to go back to college, was not easy to save aboard the ship, heard paid higher wages in Honolulu, but dreams shattered when war began

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