2021.022.001-3 Interview with Charlie Lai July 27, 2012

 

Charlie Lai along with Jack Tchen are founders of the Chinatown History Project, which has gone on to become the Museum of Chinese in America. In this five part interview conducted over the course of several months Charlie talks about his childhood in Hong Kong and how his family eventually decided to immigrate to the United States when he was nine years old. He talks about living with his uncle when they first arrive in the states and saying on Long Island. His family eventually moves into their own place in Manhattan. Later he recounts his time at Princeton and his community organizing effort to recruit more Asian students to the school even though he was not fond of the institution. While still a student at Princeton he spent summers working at Basement Workshop, which was where he met Jack Tchen. Basement had many issues with inter office politics and eventually closed. Charlie and Jack began discussing ideas, which would turn into the Chinatown History Project at 70 Mulberry Street. Charlie eventually steps down as executive director of the museum because he didn’t feel he could take it to the next level. But is called back when his replacement Fay Chew needs his help in growing the organization into a bigger space. Charlie recounts in depth his fundraising efforts with Maya Lin in the wake of the 9-11 attack to try and find the museum a new home, which ends up being 215 Centre Street. He makes mention of his personal life and marriage to Pat, whom he met while community organizing in college. After leaving the museum for a second time Charlie talks about working a few months at the Chinatown Manpower Project.

0:00 - The apartment Lai and his family lived in and how the space was divided, living in Brooklyn, his two different friend groups that remained separate.

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0:00 - Method of presenting Chinatown history, showcasing laundry workers and garment factory workers, working with other organizations and Lai’s connections with others, MOCA as an activist organization, preventing a new zoning law to take place and a new environmental impact studies law, working with the Transfiguration church.

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0:00 - Life of Lai and his wife after they got back from China, creating an organizational structure at the history project, the types of individuals that made up the board and may being activists, living in Brooklyn, his sister and what jobs she did.

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8:32 - His childhood friends not thinking about Asian-American identity in the same way he did, gangs in the Lower East side, possibility of joining a gang in middle and high school and gangs being a part of daily life, shootings with gangs, why he decided to work with kids.

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24:03 - 44 East Broadway catching on fire, other residents impacted by the fire, figuring out what caused the fire, their landlord trying to make them pay money, Confucius plaza, petitioning for the Chinatown History Project to get available community space, meeting with the godfather of Chinatown Uncle Seven.

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38:52 - The organization of CCBA, working with Tongs and the Hip Sing, the godfather of Chinatown Uncle Seven, talking with Chinatown newspapers and CCBA asking for support.

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46:08 - Converting 70 Mulberry from classrooms into an office, completing the space and inviting elected officials for the opening, getting involved with community political work.

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69:39 - The goal of presenting and obtaining the truth of the past and present of Chinatown’s history, selecting what issues to get involved with.

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76:16 - Taking over as the executive director, why various staff left the history project, new plans for the institution in 1986 and new staff, coming up with new ideas, working on fundraising, administration and programming.

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85:24 - Puerto Rican women in the garment industry, showcasing Chinatown as dynamic and ever changing, using Chinatown to tell a larger American story, allowing people to explore identity at the museum, being effective educators is crucial.

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