2013.022.009 Oral History Interview with Wing Lee

 

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Tomie Arai and Janice Lau sit down with Wing Lee to discuss his life and his experience growing up in and around New York Citys Chinatown in the 60s through the 80s. Wing talks about what it was like as a kid being raised in the US with Chinese parents, and growing up on the streets of Chinatown. He talks about the schools he went to in the area, and all the spots the neighborhood kids used to hang out. Later on in his late teenage years, he describes the experience at a popular neighborhood bar called Grandpas. Wing describes the atmosphere at Grandpas, the regulars there, and how he was eventually asked to design a t-shirt for the bar as well as a large mirror to hang in the space. He touches on the gang presence in Chinatown in the 70s, and describes the changes he has seen in the neighborhood since his youth. He feels hopeful for the future of Chinatown and believes that the quality of life has improved for your average Chinatown resident. He is excited that the area is now taken seriously politically and that Chinatown has Asian and Chinese representation within the city government. Wing is an artist, and he is excited to see the museum documenting this important community history.

0:00 - Introduction to Wing Lee and his life, explaining how it was to grow up in and around Chinatown in the ‘60s, 70s, and ‘80s. He talks about what life was like in the Alfred E. Smith projects, where he lived when he was growing up.

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9:17 - Starting Junior High and having experiences outside of Chinatown on his own and being the only Chinese kid in his classes. Wing discusses the changes in the population of Chinatown through the years, and how in his youth only Cantonese was heard in Chinatown, but after the immigration laws changed in the 60s you would hear a lot of Mandarin being spoken as well. Wing talks about being involved in the Chinatown Democratic Club and the events the organized.

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18:03 - Talking about the differences between the beginning of the Democratic Club and the start of Basement Workshop, which were both established at around the same time. Differences between local and not local in Chinatown, the unique community of neighborhood people in Chinatown.

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25:18 - When and why Wing decided to become an artist, his arts background and education, his current profession. Talking about involvement with Yellow Pearl, an arts book published by Basement Workshop in 1972.

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32:20 - Discussion about the Chinatown gangs when he was growing up and as a young person, where the neighborhood kids would hang out, discussion of his usual spot, a bar called Grandpa’s. Talking about all the kinds of people who would hang out at Grandpa’s, talking about designing art for Grandpa’s, more discussion of Grandpa’s.

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45:02 - Talking about how even though he’s moved to Brooklyn, Wing still comes to Chinatown frequently. He talks about where his parents live and where they lived previously. Anecdote about New Year’s one year. Changes in the population in Chinatown over the years, changes in how Chinatown is perceived and represented in city government, changes in quality of life. Efforts to preserve the history of the original Chinatown.

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53:51 - What Wing would include in a memoryscape of Chinatown in the 70s, further discussion of Grandpa’s, boundaries of old Chinatown, other immigrant groups that lived in close proximity to the neighborhood.

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68:02 - Objects that are representative of Wing’s life in Chinatown in the 70s, his collection of arcade signs from a popular arcade in Chinatown, discussion of the arcade.

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73:30 - Concluding thoughts.

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