2008.040.015 Oral History Interview with Kam Mak March 6, 2008

 

Kam Mak is an artist who emigrated with his parents from Hong Kong to the United States at age ten in 1971. In this interview, he vividly describes growing up in an old tenement building on Eldridge Street and becoming involved with street kids during the seventies. He mentions the strong presence of street gangs during his childhood as well as the turning point during his youth that redirected him towards art as an escape from getting into trouble. Mak also discusses conceptual ideas that inspire his artwork, which is heavily influenced by his sensory impressions of the Chinatown neighborhood and culture. He notes the changes in neighborhood dynamic since then, observing differences in population, safety, and lifestyle. After moving out of Chinatown in the early 90s, Maks art became a means to reconnect or save his ties to the Chinatown community. He goes on to describe his work writing and illustrating his childrens book My Chinatown and designing a series of Lunar New Year stamps for the U.S. Postal Service. Reflecting on how Chinatown’s identity is rooted in its low-income and immigrant residents, he laments about how the forces of gentrification could eventually erode Chinatown to a “fake” shell of its former glory.

0:00 - Introduction, Hanging out with street gangs and troublemaking as youth, Turned school career around in middle school, Art skills provided outlet and enabled him to succeed, Emigrating from Hong Kong to the New York, Family history and family life in New York

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13:53 - Going to live shows and movies in Chinatown at Golden Palace and Music Palace, Mural painting projects in Chinatown with Tomie and City Art Workshop was turning point in life that encouraged him to pursue art

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22:11 - Street gangs in Chinatown during the ‘70s and ‘80s, Father’s difficulty adjusting to America and gambling problem, poultry market and illegal live poultry vendor, Current painting series on live animals in Chinese markets

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32:20 - Describing Chinatown to someone who is totally unfamiliar with it, expansion of Chinatown borders since 1970s, key money and moving out of family apartment, getting mugged in Chinatown as a young adult, gang shootings frequent during childhood

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43:16 - Social clubs and youth gangs gone from Chinatown now, crime in Chinatown now, Changes in Chinatown, Fireworks on Chinese New Year banned, Shift from manufacturing to service economy, Uncle stepping in as father figure, Mother attending Buddhist temple in Chinatown

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54:22 - Father getting mugged and moving parents to new apartment, Designing postage stamp, Defining gentrification, Older generation of working-class immigrates still live in Chinatown while wealthy second and third generation people move back to new housing in Chinatown

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65:34 - When the older generation dies or leaves Chinatown will become a “fake Chinatown,” Chinatown residents buying apartments in other area for more security, Trying to keep ties to Chinatown even when he feels increasingly distant from Chinatown community

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73:54 - Westerners will not understand real Chinatown, Painting is way out of Chinatown as youth and way in as adult, Children’s book My Chinatown, Doing Lunar New Year stamp for U.S. Postal Service, Stamp art as a source of pride for Asian American community

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88:09 - Chinatown as closed society versus more porous boundaries around neighborhood today, Conflicts during childhood with kids from other ethnic neighborhoods in Lower East Side, Old first generation immigrants are mostly gone

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