2017.032.015 Oral History Interview with Ivy Tam, February 17, 2004

 

Ivy Tam was a chorus girl at Forbidden City from 1959 to 1962 during the peak of San Francisco Chinatown’s nightclub scene. She was also briefly married to the nightclub’s founder, Charlie Low. In this interview, Ivy provides insight into how dancers at Forbidden City were scouted as talent for the musical production and movie version of Rodgers and Hammerstein’s “Flower Drum Song.” She also discusses how she herself was considered for but ultimately declined a role as double for Nancy Kwan (Mei-Li) in the film. Ivy also shares her thoughts on various topics, such as whether Rodgers and Hammerstein based their show on Forbidden City, critiques about the racial insensitivity of the original show, and her opinion of David Henry Hwang’s rewriting. This interview is one of a series of 18 interviews that author David Lewis Hammarstrom conducted in 2003 as part of research for his book, Flower Drum Songs: The Story of Two Musicals (2006).

0:00 - How her audition came about, Jack Soo, was told that she did not look Chinese enough, casting came to Forbidden City, H.K. Wong, casting for the part of Mei-Li, also looking at other dancers

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8:43 - Came to Forbidden City because the book was also about a Chinese nightclub, clarified whether she was told that they were considering her for the movie, asked to be a double for Nancy Kwan, said she was not interested, asked on what basis they might have looked at her to be Mei-Li, H.K. Wong, came to Chinatown, looking for Chinese girls, describes what story was about, considered her because she was a simple Chinese girl who became a showgirl

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15:18 - How she got to Chinatown, her immigration background, met Charlie Low, tried out for Forbidden City, what Charlie was like, girls at Forbidden City were not locals, Gene Kelly also came to Forbidden City to look for talent, scouted Jack Soo, also took some of the women dancers, why she was not interested

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21:27 - The Celestial Bar was not based on the Chinese Skyroom, whether Rodgers and Hammerstein based the show on Forbidden City, what she thought about the original show, thoughts on criticism that show was racially insensitive, back then and how things have changed

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29:47 - Thoughts on David Henry Hwang’s version, praise for chorus girls at Forbidden City, shame they could not cast more of the girls, thoughts on seeing the show with Charlie, sad when Forbidden City closed, will be in the show at Castro Theater, someone doing documentary about Chinatown [muffled], had own little dance group

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38:05 - When Charlie died, Charlie did not get to see the Arthur Dong documentary, Hammarstrom explaining his book, Ivy helped him understand how they scouted talent for “Flower Drum Song” at Forbidden City, explains will send Ivy quotes to approve before publishing, will say hello if goes to show at Castro Theater, Hammarstrom reminiscing about visiting Chinatown

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