2008.040.021 Oral History Interview with Sio Wai Sang April 18, 2008

 

Sio Wai Sang sits down with MOCA to discuss his experience in Chinatown since he first arrived in the 1970s by way of Macau and the Dominican Republic. He discusses his experience working as a jeweler, how he set the precedent for immigrant jewelers in Chinatown, and how the counterfeit industry has negatively affected Chinatown businesses by making them all seem cheap. He also shares his thoughts on the more close-knit community culture of Chinatown when he lived there and how he perceives it to have changed over the past several decades as the different generations come and go. Mr. Sang also talks about how he believes Chinatown should move forward and develop by creating a Business Improvement District. He believes that it will improve the commercial side of Chinatown and leave the residential side unharmed because of the internal cohesion of the Chinese community which wants to keep Chinatown Chinese. He also expresses his belief that plans for development should be approached with a cautious perspective, so new developments don’t become too commercial and harm the cultural character.

0:00 - Introduction; born in 1946 in Canton China; family and family history; describes Macau and the immigrant experience there; liked his uncles jewelry store so he became a jeweler in Dominican Republic; Chinese community in DR; came alone to Chinatown but had friends who came before; first arrival in Chinatown living in East Bowery; robbery made people scared; development starts in downtown, and Chinatown needs to develop but need engaged residents not tourists; Confucius Plaza’s importance to him

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13:11 - What else was in Chinatown on Mott and Pearl; small community where people know each other has become more distant; young people visiting movie theatres on weekends; back then things felt more alive; second generation has spread out from the older generations; stronger sense of community and respect for elders back then; Music Palace Theatre history; small hotels and motels in the area changing

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23:04 - People drawn to Chinatown because of the culture and friends and food; difficulty of working with the city and why people need to improve the area through a bid; he believes in renewal and improvement but it needs to be balanced with local interests; Canal street in the 1970s-80s; his jewelry store; people learned jewelry from him and opened stores after; hard to make money on slim profit margins, high competition, and high rent; knockoff handbag industry makes Chinatown look bad and cheap

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32:31 - His customers are mixed between locals and outsiders; discuss the fake handbag sales and how it makes people think everything on Canal street is fake; been president of Canal Jewelry Association for fifteen years, very cooperative community; discusses other business communities

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38:52 - He never gets tired of Chinatown and he wants to improve it; wants to stay in the area forever; lots of traffic on Canal which causes damage and pollution is his only issue; everyone has their own favorite spots; people want to understand Chinese culture and he likes to educate younger generations; favorite cake spot

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47:09 - The borders of Chinatown; biggest changes in Chinatown; wants to see young Chinese professionals return to Chinatown; Indian immigrants move into buildings as a group in Brooklyn which is different from Chinese immigrants; his thoughts on the condos popping up in the area; dynamic with landlords; as long as there are Chinese people invested in Chinatown, they won’t get broken apart; people are willing to rent at lower rates to local Chinese instead of outsiders

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57:42 - Chinatown is different from most of New York because real estate prices don’t fluctuate as much when things get bad because people don’t want to leave the community; Little Italy has become more Chinese; one building changing and becoming gentrified doesn’t change the whole area; people across Manhattan are getting priced out not just Chinatown; people aren’t invested in the community in other parts of the city in the same way as in Chinatown; tenants have more rights in the US than China

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65:44 - CPLEC; issues of cleanliness in the Chinatown community which LMDC and the City are trying to combat; marketing Chinatown to tourists to get more business; need to partner with the government and make a BID to push improvement; some people don’t want to accept the tax increase associated with the BID; discusses impact of BID on residential vs. commercial; wants to protect the residential

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75:31 - First impression and job in NYC Chinatown; very different from Macau; nowadays people feel less connected to the space in his opinion; why he moved to Queens but kept his business in Chinatown; most important thing is to keep the old buildings and bring back young people; family and children; kids don’t want to live in Chinatown; importance of learning to cook instead of eating out all the time; need the younger generation

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