2008.040.013 Oral History Interview with Larry Goodman December 16, 2007

 

Larry Goodman, todays owner of his familys corporation Grand Machinery Exchange, Inc., recounts how his first generation Polish grandfather founded the company in 1927. Goodmans father Jerry and uncle Isidore took control of the business in 1947, and Larry Goodman later succeeded his father in 1983. According to Goodman, Centre Street machinery dealers were predominantly Jewish and were often afraid of non-Jewish “outsiders.” These business men were concerned with gaining respect and carried physical and psychological hardships because of this work ethic. Goodman also recalls the mixture of unity and intense competition between Jewish and Italian machinery dealers, the whole of which was referred to as the “forty thieves,” since most of the dealers were considered unrefined and were occasionally accused of having questionable business ethics. Goodman reminisces about Chinatown as the industrial center of Manhattan, where he saw gradual sociological changes between the 1950s and 2000, including industry, hardware, and supporting retail spaces systematically leaving the area. Goodman sold the Grand Machinery Exchange shop building in 2005, explaining that business was no longer viable on Centre Street. He also notes the growing presence of Chinese-owned businesses on Centre Street, incorporating the neighborhood as a part of Chinatown rather than SoHo. Goodman reflects on how Centre Street has cycled through machinery and manufacturing, the garment industry, living-working spaces for creatives, and now finally to expensive developments. Furthermore, when asked to imagine the future of Chinatown, Goodman argues that money will dictate the outcome as part of a natural economic cycle. In his eyes, wealthy populations will move into the area, demand more luxury services and support and retail to accommodate their lifestyle and living spaces, and replace “mom and pop” establishments that can no longer afford to remain there.

0:00 - Origin of family company Grand Machinery Exchange Inc. founded in 1927, immigration story of his Polish grandparents Jacob and Bertha Goodman, Industrial history of Chinatown neighborhood during 20th century

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15:02 - Father serving in WWII, Larry Goodman’s father Jerry and uncle Isidore rent first location at 134 Baxter Street, Jerry and Isidore buy 215 Centre Street in 1947 because of bad landlord at Baxter, Police building was first building in lower Manhattan to be converted into condos in the ‘70s

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27:26 - Jerry and Isidore put large neon signs outside both 215 Centre and 134 Baxter to advertise their business, Growing up in Long Beach, Long Island, Visiting Centre Street as a child with father, Choice to take control of family business

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38:11 - Business model needed to change as machine industry gradually left Lower Manhattan, There was community and competition among 40 Machine dealers that were based on Centre Street, Internal family rivalry between kids born abroad and kids born in the States

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43:06 - Centre Street’s national reputation as machinery district, Centre Street becomes Chinatown overtime as industry leaves, Business tax and real estate details, Closing and Selling Grand Machinery Exchange building in 2005, Employees at business

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54:34 - Relocating Grand Machinery Exchange to Long Island and changing business structure, Changing composition of Centre Street neighborhood from machinery to garment shops to live-work lofts to expensive developments, dot com boom and tech industry also pushed garment industry out

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64:12 - Thinking about Chinatown as a neighborhood, Chinatown food, Little Italy remaining the same despite change all around, Experience on 9/11 and the aftermath of the attack

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76:04 - Gentrification will dictate how neighborhood changes, money dictates change regardless of anyone’s desire, Similarities between cultural values among different immigrant populations despite the ethnic tension between these groups, Strong work ethic is fundamental to success

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